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Post by Guest Sat 27 Aug 2011, 14:00

Are back passes good or bad? I reckon if you really need to go backwards and you're under pressure then fine, do it, but some people do it when they've got loads of other options. Back passing just invites pressure on to your defenders really when you could actually carry on with an attack. People think they're the Barcelona of Haxball when that way doesn't work on Haxball. I've gone for bad, but it's alright if you have no options available.

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Post by jonnyynnoj Sat 27 Aug 2011, 14:24

Same as you donny. Sometimes they can work, but most of the time if there's nothing on just send it forward to gain territory.
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Post by Muddade Sat 27 Aug 2011, 14:58

Good if used right, simples!
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Post by Blazing Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:03

Good, instead of bringing pressure to the defenders, it takes the pressure off the attackers to lose the ball if you have a decent team.
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Post by CircleBoy Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:04

I think they can work if the attack breaks down but the oposition doesnt have anyone close enough to pressure your defender. Sort of like starting your attack all over again. Or in oddly specific situations like you have a player open across the field but theres someone close to you blocking the direct pass. In that situation you could flick it back and your keeper/defender could make the pass.

Other than that its just loosing territory and maybe even putting pressure on your defence.
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Post by Muddade Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:11

CircleBoy wrote:I think they can work if the attack breaks down but the oposition doesnt have anyone close enough to pressure your defender. Sort of like starting your attack all over again. Or in oddly specific situations like you have a player open across the field but theres someone close to you blocking the direct pass. In that situation you could flick it back and your keeper/defender could make the pass.

Other than that its just loosing territory and maybe even putting pressure on your defence.

Solid points there Circle.
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Post by Blazing Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:13

CircleBoy wrote:I think they can work if the attack breaks down but the oposition doesnt have anyone close enough to pressure your defender. Sort of like starting your attack all over again. Or in oddly specific situations like you have a player open across the field but theres someone close to you blocking the direct pass. In that situation you could flick it back and your keeper/defender could make the pass.

Other than that its just loosing territory and maybe even putting pressure on your defence.

No, if you do a back pass with certain people like me, then you'll start a counter attack because the striker will probably dive in, if not, then you'll have time to think about starting a new attack.
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Post by jonnyynnoj Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:18

How can anyone back pass to you when you're stood on the goal line? Neutral
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Post by Blazing Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:30

jonnyynnoj wrote:How can anyone back pass to you when you're stood on the goal line? Neutral

Fuck off Jonny, retard.
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Post by jonnyynnoj Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:50

You really need some better comebacks other than "Fuck off" Wink
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Post by Blazing Sat 27 Aug 2011, 15:51

jonnyynnoj wrote:You really need some better comebacks other than "Fuck off" Wink

You really are a cunt.
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Post by jonnyynnoj Sat 27 Aug 2011, 16:21

Why so offensive?
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Post by Muddade Sat 27 Aug 2011, 16:30

No jonny blazing is defensive!
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Post by Guest Sat 27 Aug 2011, 19:54

Back passes are good at certain times. Agree with CircleBoy.


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Post by CircleBoy Wed 21 Mar 2012, 16:32

The CL reminded me this topic existed...lol
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Post by Edgar Davids Wed 21 Mar 2012, 17:19

lol

having played 4v4, I don't think we backpass enough. If we're only playing it between 2 players then it gets boring and predictable. If we use the defender more then the opposition gets drawn out easily and you can play it in behind them for more space and time to attack.
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Post by Constantinople Wed 21 Mar 2012, 17:23

I saw a lot of teams backpassing in the CL and it seemed effective.
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Post by TT Wed 21 Mar 2012, 17:37

Edgar Davids wrote:

I don't think we backpass enough. If we're only playing it between 2 players then it gets boring and predictable. If we use the defender more then the opposition gets drawn out easily and you can play it in behind them for more space and time to attack.

I'm sure my lot would agree with that opinion, and if i'm entirely honest, i do too. The reason I prefer them not to pass back to me stems from my own lack of confidence rather than a belief the tactic is wrong...
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Post by Griffin Wed 21 Mar 2012, 17:53

Which part of the pitch are the back passes happening in?
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Post by TT Wed 21 Mar 2012, 18:05

Good point Griff - i took it to mean the attacking third - ie. recycling the attack - but i've seen the likes of Jonny make devastating attacks out of passes back into the defensive third...
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Post by Ghost Wed 21 Mar 2012, 18:09

Position doesn't really matter when it comes to back passes, all you need to be aware of is where your attacking opponents are, if they are too close to your defender and they won't have much time on the ball without being pressed then don't try it, but if they look like they may have a decent second to think about where the pass needs to go then back passing from anywhere on the pitch is very useful.
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Post by MoMo Wed 21 Mar 2012, 18:37

I love backpasses, aslong as they're not direct passes/long back passes. short passes that are bounced on the wall by the attacker to def are sexy and they stretch the game and give more opportunities to attack rather than the boring wall-fights and cross+goals. + it keeps possesion and if you have possesion you control the game.

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Post by currybum Wed 21 Mar 2012, 19:03

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Post by Aidan Wed 21 Mar 2012, 21:10

deadly monkees for passing backwards

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Post by Girgensons Wed 21 Mar 2012, 21:19

What kind of a question is this. Back passes are essential, like Ghost said.

Backpassing to your GK through a double bounce in the defensive corner, while blocking the opposing winger/forward is just as good as a back pass when you're attacking against a bussing team.

Back passes work everywhere, you just have to be in the right place and the right time.

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Post by Mick Wed 21 Mar 2012, 21:51

depends how good your keeper is

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Post by rolex Wed 21 Mar 2012, 22:00

i fink lpc shuld be promoted to div1 tbh
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Post by George Best Wed 21 Mar 2012, 22:35

Probably already been said but it really, really depends on who you've got in your team.

As a forward, it's useful to know that I can pass back to a player safe in the knowledge that, assuming my pass is decent, they'll probably be able to redistribute the ball well. Then again, there are times when you're playing with weaker players who don't have the requisite touch, awareness and instinct to deal with them, and it looks like you've made a dodgy pass. Basically it's a judgement call on a match-by-match basis.
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Post by any1 Wed 04 Apr 2012, 21:39

Back passes are the good if the attackers are RS and GOKU and the defender is Cookies.

Back passes are bad if the defender is Ghost. Unless you want to see some lulz.
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Post by Stevo Wed 04 Apr 2012, 21:45

opens up the possibility of a momo.gif tho dunnit
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Post by Vargo Thu 05 Apr 2012, 01:15

Back passes are just passes and as anything, depends on the situation for it to be good or bad.
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Post by MoMo Thu 05 Apr 2012, 03:09

STEVO12188™©® wrote:opens up the possibility of a momo.gif tho dunnit
No, unless the pass is bad or the position of gk is bad or there is lag or the gk is rusty or the gk doesn't ask or expect the pass or the gk is near his own goal or the pass isn't a pass to gk but a shot at the gk or th gk doesn't think before he recieves the ball or the gk is just unlucky, there is no possibility at all of a momo.gif

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Post by Pedy Sun 27 May 2012, 08:14

Well first of all, are we speaking 3 v 3 or 4 v 4? O.o
I dont really know anyone who uses backpasses in 3 v 3 around there own area, but offensively yes, I myself require all 3 players to attack with the GK supporting the attacker in the corner, and the other attacker in the center awaiting a pass.

3 v 3 is just like 4 v 4 offensively, and actually almost defensively too.
Now of course there's tons of differences between the two in that space is limited in 4 v 4 and that you have a gk so of-course skill level needs to be much higher - However the principle of backpasses is the same :-) !
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Post by Taylor Swift Sun 27 May 2012, 09:34

3v3 when the thread was made but >3v3

onto 4v4 we go #FUCKYEAH
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Post by Menso Pelaez Sun 27 May 2012, 13:40

Vargo wrote:Back passes are just passes and as anything, depends on the situation for it to be good or bad.

This guy is wise Very Happy
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Post by Mick Sun 27 May 2012, 13:48

just realised this was last year

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Post by Guest Sun 27 May 2012, 13:51

This was made for 3v3 back when a time where Blazing was scoring og's past every keeper claiming it was a pass. Good times.

Probably should have put a date on the poll. People still voting like a year after it was created.

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Post by Menso Pelaez Sun 27 May 2012, 14:06

donny pls, tbh it's the same in 3v3, just u gotta be more careful if u're the GK Smile
and i dunno about blazing passes but i do them and if GK is well positioned they shouldnt get in...(anyway u gotta have caution and dont pass them from too near because lag can kill u Very Happy)
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Post by Redboy Sun 27 May 2012, 15:55

Facepalm, obvious is good, is the game of pros ._.

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Post by Ghost Sun 27 May 2012, 19:18

Redboy wrote:Facepalm, obvious is good, is the game of pros ._.

Then why is Menso here? scratch
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Post by Redboy Sun 27 May 2012, 23:18

Ghost wrote:
Redboy wrote:Facepalm, obvious is good, is the game of pros ._.

Then why is Menso here? scratch

Back Passes? Enchufe

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