I know it is long but take a read please.

Before the season is even about to start I and others sense there is a big corruption in the league specifically speaking, Seedstich.

If you aren't aware of the situation let me explain it to you briefly. Fred was handed over captaincy at the end of season 3 by fap who retired before the season ended. At this time Fred did not want captaincy and offered it to other players outside of the team and they all refused. At this time Juventino wanted to leave and Stevo was available for captaincy but he wasn't asked.

Now, going in to the draft as a captain and not wanting to play for this team Fred decided to hook up with Dooms prior to draft behind the scenes to try negotiate some deals. Which they have done successfully. Fred traded away Juventino for 1st draft pick - fair enough. He then picked Somalian 2 - fair enough, but he picked him for the wrong reason. The original plan was to pick Somalian 2 and trade him to Power Puff Men captained by Dooms along with Fred.

Now at this point Fred did not give a single F*** what happened to SS after he accomplished his deal with Dooms. He then decided to pick Pogge for what ever reasons. At this moment of time, they signed Deadly,Qezo and AM-99 - Nothing wrong with that.

Fred has completed his part of the deal and now is on his way to join Power Puff Men with Somalian 2. The current members of SS are Stevo (c), Qezo (v-c), Deadly, AM-99 and Pogge...... oh wait no. Pogge has been traded to Starlights in return for a 5th round pick. Stevo traded away Pogge who was a late 1st round pick for a 5th round pick, to Starlights. This again is another form of corruption as Rachel took advantage of a team that wasn't in a stable form, not captained correctly, and felt she could swoop a player with a lot of potential for her own selfish benefits.

Now what lead up to this moment and what could have been done to prevent such an impeachment?

The answer to that is Admins. Prior to the draft EVERYONE knew that Fred did not want captaincy. So what admins should had have done is to tell Fred to give captaincy to Stevo who was the only remaining member of the team at the time. He refused as well. So what came next in conclusion is that Fred willingly wanted to give away captaincy to anyone in the forum, but to do this he had to pick them first. Which did not happen, as you can see the result was that Fred use his powers and advantages to put the club at a huge disadvantage and that PPM could benefit from this.

There was one person that wanted to take over captaincy of the team because they genuinely wanted to, and that person is QEZO. Which no one takes serious in the league, even me I didn't take him seriously in season 3 when I signed him. However they overturned this possibility just because of who QEZO is.

I feel a sense that some Admins do not give a flying F*** about what's happening in division 2. None of them can pretend that they did not not know because Fred said he didn't want captaincy since the day he received it (2-3 months ago). I also feel that division 2 will lack in quality and supervision. Maybe that's controversial but oh well.

Now there's is nothing to be done but to learn a lesson from this I suppose and any person who benefited this league you made it what you like to call it less 'fun'.

I want to conclude this but I got on more point to make. Before you shout at me like you don't appreciate what's being done and etc.... I absolutely 100% appreciate this league, the members, the effort the admins have put in and any other members of the league. I am more than happy to be in this community, and I thoroughly love it.

This afternoon some Admins and highly respectable members of the community complained about what Girgensons has been doing. Which is getting other players to sign up under fake names so he can securely make sure they join his team. My point on this I'm not bothered, but what I am bothered about this that some Admins and the members that gave a f*** who are in Division 1 which all of this directly affects them is that they give a BIGGER F*** about what's happening in division 1 and not 2.

This clearly shows that there is nothing being done about any corruption or stuff that's happening in division 2 which does not affect them, but once its a story about Division 1, hell breaks lose and everyone suddenly gives a f**.

To cut it short. I and other members are disappointed about how this situation has been handled. We all make mistakes and we just want to learn from it so that the league improves as whole.

Thank you for taking your time to read this.

I struggled to find a face to truly capture my feelings, but after much deliberation, i found one.

Bayer Neverlosin are going to kick their asses anyway

idd, also i actually didn't read lol.. can u make a audio file or video pls cba 2 read

I'll edit later to think of a good response disproving your shit ideas, but for now I'll just say nobody has complained about girgensons getting good players to sign up with fake names; or at least I haven't seen.

Ovoxo pls u take too hard efforts to get negged
It's enough with shorter topics to get it

Mick wrote:I'll edit later to think of a good response disproving your shit ideas, but for now I'll just say nobody has complained about girgensons getting good players to sign up with fake names; or at least I haven't seen.

Plenty of people have, constantly. Where have you been?

omg rach wtf u took our player

YEAH FUCK YOU DIV1

is that what this is about? Big A is confused

YEAH FUCK YOU ALL FUCK YOU OBAMA

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still doe ovo is right admin didnt even care

Ye well i read now and ur right in some things.
I also think admins should do something about this but maybe ur being too hard with em...
And I don't like what girgensons did but there's no rule about that so...
Anyway don't really understand why he made join those noobs with fake names. if he wanted a pro team he could have called good players and make em join with fake names and not those noobs he made join :S

Consult my post in stevos trade thread for a small explanaition. On my phone so I'm not bothering going in to detail about it at the minute. I will say I'm severly disappointed in the accusations of a lack of care for division 2 though.

Come talk to me before making yourself look a dick. It saves everyones time that way.

ovo sit yo blak ass down son cos u just got parred.

Div 2 lol

Don't worry about starlights taking advantage Aaron's bound to give away at least two goals a game do it makes up for that

Ghost wrote:I will say I'm severly disappointed in the accusations of a lack of care for division 2 though.

Well plenty of care has been taken for Division 2. It's compulsory. To run a proper league both divisions have to be ran equally. I'm not talking about the teams, captains, fixtures, results, streaming and etc. That type of care is equal.

I'm talking more specific things like stuff that's happening within teams. Like seedstich. Little or no attention was given to any solutions that could have stopped or resolved what was happening. No argument or discussion has happened at all. It was probably just me in the chat box moaning and no one listened cause apparently I'm full of shit.

Then Girgensons stacks his team with what ever method he used to do it. Then all of a sudden, people disagree with this, they speak their thoughts and they pay attention. Only reason why they do this is because it blatantly affects them. Its starting to turn out to be a personal thing rather than an overall thing.

I spoke to Griffin about this and when he found out, he wanted to take action. That was the same hour that Stevo posted his deliberation.

I'm not being a dick , but stating there's a clear lack of internal care given in Division 2 teams than Division 1 teams.

Period.

^I can tell you right now that's bs cause i know for a fact that ghost was working on trying to resolve the situation. It's not clear cut stuff though is it as most of what's happened isn't exactly against the rules.

The way the draft went this season...

GL retaining zee title aidan

Isn't there's a way to unreverse what dooms, fred and rachel did? breach of rules or sumink.. I'm sure this can still be fixed as the season hasn't started.

Re-draft.

MoMo wrote:Isn't there's a way to unreverse what dooms, fred and rachel did? breach of rules or sumink.. I'm sure this can still be fixed as the season hasn't started.

I haven't done anything wrong. I've signed a player for a decent trade. Why's everyone pointing out this trade, when ovo/momo did a blank space trade and so did momo/menso? Gordon basically did the same as fred, signed players then gave captaincy away so he could be traded, yet everyone's so butthurt about me signing a player that isn't even here for 6 weeks?

How about leave me the fuck alone?

inb4 amunike john cena face^^(4 post b4 rachel's post)

i agree

btw, i did ask stevo if he wanted to be capt a long time ago

LEAVE RACHEL THE FUCK ALONE

Nocerino wrote:

opc wrote:

Nocerino wrote:Re-draft.

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Rachel wrote:

MoMo wrote:Isn't there's a way to unreverse what dooms, fred and rachel did? breach of rules or sumink.. I'm sure this can still be fixed as the season hasn't started.

I haven't done anything wrong. I've signed a player for a decent trade. Why's everyone pointing out this trade, when ovo/momo did a blank space trade and so did momo/menso? Gordon basically did the same as fred, signed players then gave captaincy away so he could be traded, yet everyone's so butthurt about me signing a player that isn't even here for 6 weeks?

How about leave me the fuck alone?

Loool, I did nothing of the same, what are you talking about? not even sure why you mentioned my name to be honest. I had no idea or no intentions to leave my team until I did. I didnt just sign ''anyone'' either, I signed the best players from the draft I could. Also I didnt sign a random player and make them captain + I didnt sign players to trade them to a team I was going to either... I left for valid reasons to do with FM + I will not be around no where near as much this season. It was best for my team I wasnt in charge as you need someone who is here all the time to take the captain roll, myself will not be able to that this season. I took over LPC as captain half way through the season when we was bottom/second from bottom, every said I/we had no chance to turn things around.. I/we got LPC promoted to div1. I did a good job and now they're in div1 with 2 players who also made that happen, one being who was vice cap so everyhting is fine.

Very silly compering me to the Fred situation Rachel, it is nothing a like what so ever.

didnt compare, just sayin its funny how nobody mentioned a blank space trade but people butthurt over me signing pogge in what was a good trade for seedstitch

Rachel i don't think you should use the word butthurt as it doesn't seem like a nice word and you are a nice person but sometimes you are not nice to people so maybe you should be nice to people and then everyone would be happy because they would be happy that you are being nice because everyone is a nice person but some people aren't nice to people because they have something that they think is not nice about themselves so they think that they have to be not nice so they can blame people being not nice to them on the fact that you aren't nice to people even though it is probably about the thing that you think is not nice about yourself here is a full stop.

>opc

thank you for replying to my message Rachel but i don't know what more than opc means because i thought that more than was used only in maths but i don't know maybe i am wrong and you are using it properly but maybe you mean that you are more than me but that is not a nice thing to say about yourself that you are fat and there is more of you than me but maybe that is the reason you are not nice to people even though are nice because you are fat and want to make yourself feel better about being fat so you try to make other people feel bad because then you feel better because people feel bad i don't know here is a full stop.

>opc

ah dat opc made me laugh

The Pogge trade wasn't a good deal (at least not the original one)

The original one didn't happen. It was a good deal for a player that's missing for 6 weeks, plus I don't really give a fuck about what I had to do to get him.

rachel that word isn't very nice i don't think you should use it because it is a bad word and is not very nice even though all people are nice people even people who are not nice to people because they think that they are fat and want people to feel worse than they do about themselves and i think this is what you do because you think you are fat and don't like people feeling better than you do because you are not secure and that is why you are not nice to people and here is a full stop.

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Not really - they still had draft picks left to pick another GK and keep both Pogge and the other choice. Even with the time he will be missing it would have been a bad deal.

The other offer I wouldn't class as good either... I would say it was ok(ish)

please rachel stop saying there is more of you than me because you think you are fat i am sure you are very not fat and you just think that you are which is why you are not nice to people and use bad words which are bad and here is a full stop.

opc wrote:please rachel stop saying there is more of you than me because you think you are fat i am sure you are very not fat and you just think that you are which is why you are not nice to people and use bad words which are bad and here is a full stop.

I always knew you were retarded.

don't call OPC/opc a retard Phil, you're american! LOL.. you're probably >us and thats why ur mad. (>=larger=fatter=not nice ppl=but nice inside=but dnot show it and here is the full stop and the close parentesis and a full stop after.).

MoMo wrote:don't call OPC/opc a retard Phil, you're american! LOL.. you're probably >us and thats why ur mad. (>=larger=fatter=not nice ppl=but nice inside=but dnot show it and here is the full stop and the close parentesis and a full stop after.).

I'm Canadian and I know OPC from another forum. You're just terrified of my prestigious draft status.

well excuse me for trying to stick up for a fellow human.